Vegans are become a more vocal group all the time, pushing their ideas of preventing "animal cruelty" at every opportunity. But, I have to ask....how far are vegans willing to go?
Would Vegans buy a leather belt, purse or shoes at a thrift store??? Why not? This could be considered recycling.
Are Vegan's pets vegans as well???? This is cruelty to animals!! Both Dogs and cats are naturally meat eaters.
Vegan Cat Food: complete nutrition
Of the many nutrients that cats require, taurine is the one that is traditionally the hardest to get when eating a vegan diet because it usually comes from fish. Without taurine cats can go blind and even succumb to heart disease. As with changing one's own diet, it's important to understand nutritional requirements before jumping into any new food products.
Taurine can also be derived from yeast, which is a living organism but not sentient as far as current knowledge can tell. This would qualify it as a vegan source of taurine. I say that I could make a pretty good argument that most vegans are not "sentient". We have no idea what yeast thinks or talks about....we have no idea what fish think or talk about so this is not a valid way of picking proteins.
Wear wool???? Sheep! Buy cosmetics with lanolin??? Sheep!!!
Do Vegans get immunizations???? Almost all are animal protein based.
Gonna ever need penicillin or ampicillin???? It is a living creature you know!
Do you make sure that the veggies you eat are not grown in manure(an animal product)?????? Even if you do not consider the poop to be non-vegan....do you know for sure that the animal never ate hydrogenated protein??? That is a meat product that is passed in the manure. It is also about 75% of the food fed to most animals in feed lots....and feed lots are the primary source of manure for farms.
Eat veggie burgers at restaurants???? Cooked on the same grill as murder-burgers! Same thing for French fries....cooked with fish and whatever else the restaurant deep fries. Even restaurants that say the have a vegetarian menu.....most do not have separate cooking facilities.
Kill a spider or fly???
Own any feathers?
Take vitamins???
Eat honey or cucumbers or peppers or apples???? All most all of these veggies are coated with bee's wax.
Eat "color added" products? -- violates a number of religious dietary restrictions, may cause allergic reactions in susceptible people, and comes from an unusual source. Cochineal extract (also known as carmine or carminic acid) is made from the desiccated bodies of female Dactylopius coccus Costa, a small insect harvested mainly in Peru and the Canary Islands. The coloring is used to tint everything from grapefruit juice to lipstick.
Oh for a glass of wine......but not before you read about the chicken and eggs added: http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-wine28mar28,0,2778959.story?page=1&coll=la-home-food
I personally consider veganism to be one of the most self-destructive eccentricities that anyone could develop....unless you grow your own veggies, and process them yourself....you are not a vegan....there is so much that goes into food processing that you can never be truly vegan.
Someone mentioned B12....and yes you NEED IT. But it is only from animals.
Signs, symptoms, and health problems associated with vitamin B12 deficiency:Characteristic signs, symptoms, and health problems associated with vitamin B12 deficiency include anemia, fatigue, weakness, constipation, loss of appetite, and weight loss.
Deficiency also can lead to neurological changes such as numbness and tingling in the hands and feet.
Additional symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency are difficulty in maintaining balance, depression, confusion, dementia, poor memory, and soreness of the mouth or tongue.
Signs of vitamin B12 deficiency in infancy include failure to thrive, movement disorders, delayed development, and megaloblastic anemia.
Last of all....If you have kids....are you going to Breast feed when your child are born??? Or are they going to be Vegans too???? Do not forget that you are an animal too....so do not bite your nails ....or swallow spit..... or mucouse...never trade fluids with your spouse.....and never never skip a period....your body would be eating itself!
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I'm sad that your experience with vegans has been as lackluster as it apparently has been. Yes, most vegans avoid wool, won't buy leather belts at the thrift store, eschew animal testing and even trace amounts of animal-processed foods whenever possible.
Dogs are omnivores, like humans, not obligate carnivores. It's not too hard to have a happy vegan dog.
Vegan cats are trickier but if your cat has no pre-existing health problem it's usually possible to feed it a vegan or semi-vegan diet with foods specially formulated to meet cat food industry standards and containing taurine from synthetic sources.
In the sense that veganism can be a close-knit community of people who share ideals and wish to explain their views to the world, then yes it is like a 'cult'. But it's quite a tolerant, diverse, widespread, and fun 'cult' that promotes ethical living and creativity in its voluntary members.
Try checking out the Post Punk Kitchen cooking show on YouTube to see examples of the wonderful variety of delicious foods vegans have available to them, and how much fun they can have cooking them.
Being vegan is fun and cool. It makes me sad that so many people exclude themselves from it because of their defensiveness and guilt feelings.
"I personally consider veganism to be one of the most self-destructive eccentricities that anyone could develop....unless you grow your own veggies, and process them yourself....you are not a vegan....there is so much that goes into food processing that you can never be truly vegan."
That in itself is a destructive statement to begin with, I put it to you to visit some of the animals you are eating before you have them slaughtered in your name.
Modern humanity lives life in complete speciesism, and I suggest you watch the film "Earthlings"
Hate to burst your bubble Rich, but I don't eat animals either. This post is directed at the extremism I see in vegans. Waste of existing resources in favor of a limited variety of new resources is not sustainable. Snubbing a perfectly good leather belt in favor of a new plastic belt is waste, pure and simple. Snubbing wool(a sustainable product) in favor of acrylic is short sighted. It is this short-sightedness that I hate.
Another problem I have with pure vegans is that most of them have no idea where their food comes from. I am a vegetarian, primarily because I live in the City and do not have access to gently raised beef or chicken. It is easier for me not to eat meat at all rather than live with the suffering associated with the generally available meat products.
On the other hand I am also attuned to suffering behind many vegetable products, coffee for example. Coffee growers in the world live in some of the most inhuman conditions imaginable, without access to medical care, education or even adequate shelter. Fair-Market Coffee helps to make conditions better for these people and I support that over cheap commercial brand coffee. It offends me when a "vegan" preaches the evils of wearing leather but buys cheap coffee at the expense of human beings.
this post is so ignorant. it's speculation such as this that gives vegans a bad name. vegans try to reduce suffering in the world as much as possible. that's it. why would a vegan choose not to breast-feed? or buy vegetables grown with fertilizer?
please educate yourself before wasting your time composing such stupid essays.
I don't care if this is a two year old post - it's brilliant. The guilt-tripping sermonizing of an ethical vegan will match that of any street preacher.
I love the retorts from the cult members that obviously seem to have a learning disorder as well. The buzz kill of exploitation is all around us Coffee, Taurine synthesis, meat, baking.
Even plants feel pain, yes the study has been duplicated in germany. Mentioned also in Scientific American several years ago.
http://ds9.botanik.uni-bonn.de/zellbio/AG-Baluska-Volkmann/plantneuro/neuroview.php
Most vegans I've met are silly feel good people filled with naivity and ignorance.
Just think next time you consume a nice big plate of leafy greens the number of plants that were tortured in the prison of your fridge for weeks on end and then boiled, steam, cut, and torn to little pieces so that you might survive.
I am a vegan, I suppose. No meat or animal products EVER. No vegetarian products either. Hmmmm..I eat only electricity.
-Robot Betty9
I was a holy-roller vegan and activist for 4.5 years in Boulder, Colorado, home to billions of them. AND YES, IT IS A CULT. Thank god I quit that absurd nonsense. Just like any other meme, it perpetuates itself through the society. Such a waste of time...
for more on cults
www.criticalthinkinginanimalrights.blogspot.com
This is stupid. Vegans don't aim to be perfect, they try their best.
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